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Satire? Or Reenforcing Right-Wing/PUMA Myths?

July 13, 2008 · 3 Comments

I admit that when I first saw this image from the latest cover of the New Yorker, my reaction was one of anger: how DARE they?

But then I got over it.

Sure, they were going for shock value, but I think it does a good job of pointing out the absurdity of the right-wing/PUMA/Larry Johnson/Hillaryis44.com myths. That’s exactly how those people portray Obama; to them, he’s a flag-buring, jihad-waging, Osama-loving radical Muslim with a crazy Christian preacher. They also think Obama is a latte-drinking, arugula-eating, New York Times-reading elitist who practices terrorist fist jabs with his wife, who is an updated version of Angela Davis.

My only worry is how this might be viewed by an average low-information news consumer. This will be all over the media, so my worry is that it may form some kind of indelible image in the minds of some potential swing voters?

But I still think it’s a damn good piece of satire.

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Reasons for the Anger of Some Clinton Supporters

June 23, 2008 · 5 Comments

If you read this blog, you know that I’ve been mostly baffled by much of the anger directed at Obama’s nomination by some Clinton supporters who say that there is no way they will ever support Barack Obama. I just don’t get it, but I’m fascinated by their anger, which can be seen in all of its glory here and here.

In my entire voting life (which goes back to the 80s), this is the first time I have ever backed someone in the primaries who actually won the Democratic nomination. Winning feels good, but when I lost, even after some hard-fought and bitter contests (Jerry Brown and Howard Dean come to mind), I was able lick my wounds and go forward to support the Democratic nominee.

Losing sucks, but it’s part of politics.

So I was pleased to read this piece on Salon.com that helps explain the anger of some Clinton supporters.

1. They are angry because their candidate lost a close contest.

This is just simple human math, and it happens after every primary showdown. Remember that it took some Deaniacs months to come around to John Kerry in 2004. It’s just that most years, the contests haven’t also been identity-politics duels between two underrepresented social groups vying for a chance at a political position that has always been denied them.

And that is a part of politics, sadly.

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2. They are angry because their historic opportunity is over.

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3. They are angry about rumors that Obama may choose a woman other than Hillary Clinton as his running mate.

This is a tricky one. Maybe some Clinton supporters remain so besotted by the idea of their woman as the history maker that they won’t be satisfied unless Clinton or someone from her direct bloodline is the first female to breach the executive branch of government.

I don’t ‘get’ this one. Sebelius or Napalitano would be great VP candidates as they are strong governors and great politicians.And they happen to be women.

But if Obama picks a woman other than Hillary for VP, that would be bad?

4. They are angry that we started to talk about sexism only once Clinton stopped being a threat.

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5. They are angry at the media’s repeated denial of sexism, and they are angry at Keith Olbermann.

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6. They are mad at Howard Dean.

Not simply for allowing the massive befouling of the Democratic process that was Michigan and Florida but for addressing issues of sexism only once Clinton was out of the race. Seriously, the anger at Dean may be some of the most unexpected and intense. At the recent EMILY’s List conference, during a panel on gender and the election, Dean’s name was the only one that got booed.

7. They are mad at Barack Obama.

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But for some, there is lingering sting — about the paucity of women in Obama’s top advisory team during the campaign, about the way they feel the Obama campaign stained Clinton’s supporters — and Clinton and her husband too — as racists, about the patronizing “You’re likable enough” comment during a January debate.

As for the racism charge, well, maybe it’s not PC to say this, but I did see some racist attitudes coming out of the mouths of some Clinton supporters. Remember Ferraro saying, “They’re only attacking me because I’m white?” Or Harriett Christian’s comments about an “inadequate black man?”

I always took the “likable enough” comment in that debate to be a throw-away attempt at humor on Obama’s part. It wasn’t all that funny, but I never saw it as the terrible jab that many Clinton supporters thought it to be.

8. They are mad at Bill Clinton. Um, obviously.

9. They are mad at Mark Penn.

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10. They are mad at Hillary Clinton for conceding and not taking their fight on to Denver.

11. They are mad that everyone believes them to be old, white and racist. They are mad at the people they thought were supposed to be progressives for treating them badly.

They are mad at their party and its leaders because they feel this race has opened up a door, allowing people to rag on white women — as irrelevant and buffoonish, as ambitious and preening, as old school and boring and nagging and hectoring — in a way that demonstrates that women have a questionable place in liberalism and progressivism.

No. Women have a vital place in liberalism and progressivism. Women and liberalism should go hand-in-hand.

But at the same time, some of those angry Clinton people need to understand that many progressives could not support Clinton in the primaries given her vote on the Iraq war. Nor do we think 28 years of two-family rule in the United States would be good for Democracy. Others mistrust the Clintons because of Bill’s time in office during which he sold out many progressive ideas. And yes, I understand that Hillary and Bill are not the same person, but if she was running on Bill’s record as president, she should have also been held accountable for some of the Clinton administration’s failings.

12. And finally, they are angry because they feel they are held hostage by the party by their reproductive organs.

Conclusion?

Yes, they’re going to vote for Obama. Of course they’ll vote for him. The truth is, they’ll probably love voting for him. But after what they feel has been done to them — the way in which they were written off, marginalized and resented, their hopes mocked and their history-making ambitions dismissed as retrograde identity politicking — damned if they’re going to be nice girls about it.

I hope they come around to Obama. We need them.

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Hillary is 44 – Vile Beyond Words

June 14, 2008 · 5 Comments

Thanks to some readers of this blog for pointing out some of the vile comments from the Hillaryis44.com people:

rjk1957 starts the party with this gem:

Admin, I will not be polite… Karma baby that is all I will say, first Kennedy and his brain tumor, then the flooding in Iowa and now Russert… Obamatrons beware the wrath of God, you could be next

Nice. Iowa is flooding because God willed it upon them because Iowa Democrats chose Obama? Then why is Indiana flooded?

Dot48 chimes in:

David Gregory talking about Tim making Pillows for his kids.

MSNBC talking heads need to get off the air .. go black and mourn.

“mourning” .. how ironic.

Sucks that he got to dance on Hill’s grave though but he won’t get to brown nose Bambi into the oval office.

Sorry folks but I’m “extremely bitter and clinging to my memories of how he treated Hillary”

rjk1957 retorts:

Now if only Barack and Michelle would both choke on turkey sandwiches….

Nice Mama Cass reference.

Filbertsf chimes in:

I’m beginning to think Obama is a curse. Notice what happens to the states that BO wins and the people who pimped for him.

Norma Desmond tells us:

Well well well…

condolences to the Russert family and his colleagues. I believe he used to be quite good, but unfortunately, he became part of the Big Media Machine. He sold out. Period.

Now, back to the wars….

They go on and on and on in their hatred of Russert and Obama.

It’s quite sad to read their hate.

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Hillary is 44 – Off the Deep End

June 9, 2008 · 5 Comments

OK, I know that I promised to lay off writing about Clinton and her supporters, but a certain subset of Clinton supporters is way over the top.

From Hillaryis44’s front page:

Obama’s attacks on Hillary were also attacks on her supporters. We were, and are, called “racists” and “Republicans” among other choice slanders by Obama’s campaign and supporters. Hillary is a great and gracious woman capable of forgiving those who have attacked her. We decide how we respond when we are called “racists” and “Republicans”. Our choice is not to vote for the race-baiting, gay-bashing, woman hating, not qualified to be president, Obama.

Where to start?

First, Obama was pretty easy on Clinton. He could have gone after Bill Clinton and his current and past scandals, but he didn’t. Obama was pretty cordial to Clinton, actually.

Second, well, Clinton supporters may have been called racist.  Words sometimes get out of control in silly season. But most Clinton supporters are no more racist than most Obama supporters are sexist.Obama supporters have also had some mean names thrown at them. “Misogynists, cultists, elitists, latte-drinkers,” are the first ones that come to mind. There were many others.

Third, they choose not to support the race-baiting, gay-bashing, woman hating, not qualified to be president, Obama.

Project much? When did Obama ever race-bait? When did he ever gay bash? When did he show that he hates women?

Never, that’s when.

As for the not qualified to be president smear? Under the US constitution, he is qualified to be president as he was born in the US and is over 35. If you’re talking about resume qualifications, well, no, he hasn’t spent as much time in Washington as McCain. Abraham Lincoln was less qualified than Obama is if we use that standard. Obama’s experience might not be much like that of McCain – but it’s different. Obama’s experience is damn good for a new president in a transformative election cycle.

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We will not vote nor ask anyone to vote for John McCain or any Republican because we care too much about the issues before the nation.

Seems fair.

Hillary has been and is our candidate, role model, and inspiration. Hillary has never been our Messiah.

We will write in Hillary’s name in NOvember.

But I thought the issues were too important to vote for McCain? And how is voting for McCain different from voting for Nader or leaving your presidential ballot blank?

We also will not leave the Democratic? Party and we urge everyone to stay in the Party and fight to restore the great party of FDR to its former greatness. We will fight within the party, vote in the Democratic? Party primaries against those who helped the race-baiting, gay-bashing, woman-hating, not qualified to be president, Obama.

Ok, we get it. You hate Obama and his supporters. Thanks, We don’t hate you.

In my past presidential primaries, I worked really hard for candidates that lost. Jerry Brown and Howard Dean were the ones that I worked hardest for. In the heat of the primary battles, I said that I wouldn’t vote for Bill Clinton or Kerry ever. And I meant it.

But as time went on, the bitterness waned. I remembered that Clinton and Kerry represented my views far better than Bush I or Bush II ever would. So I plugged my nose and voted for those guys I disliked. It sucked, but I did the right thing.

So militant Clinton people –politics is all about heartbreak. Clinton’s defeat was tough for you. I know what that’s like. I really do.

But don’t sit out this election or vote for McCain simply because you are mad at the media, Obama, or Obama people.

The stakes are too great to allow a Democrat to lose this election simply to prove a point.

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Hillaryis44.com

June 1, 2008 · 4 Comments

Pathetic:

The great day has arrived. Today something historic will happen.

No, we don’t expect common sense to prevail today at the Rules Committee meeting. We don’t expect the voters of Florida and Michigan will have the votes they cast, as they cast them, respected or counted.

But something else, will happen.

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In many quarters, to know Obama is to loathe him. In poll after poll, state after state what is clear is that Hillary supporters – women, latinos, white working class voters, rural voters, African-American Hillary supporters – will NOT vote for Obama under any circumstances.

Yet, smart people like Celinda Lake (and dummies in Big Media) continue to make the argument that Hillary Clinton supporters will “come home” to the Democratic Party no matter who the nominee is. These usually smart people are betting that Democrats will be force fed “unity” and will eventually vote for the nominee of the Democratic Party based on issues.

There’s more:

That something is what Nancy Pelosi, the Katherine Harris of this election cycle, fears most. That something is what Howard Dean, author of the 48 state strategy fears most. That something is what Donna Brazille fears most, That something is what Barack Obama fears most.

The Barack Obama/Howard Dean 48 State Losing Strategy

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Today, the Hillary Clinton army will make it clear that there will be no November “unity”, no “healing” without Hillary at the Helm.

Uh, if Clinton is chosen to lead the Democrats to defeat, I won’t be on your side.

Millions of young people and African-Americans will also stay at home.

I say this as a white, rural, working-class voter who supported Brown, but then voted for Clinton, and who supported Bradley 8 years later, but then voted for Gore, and who later supported Dean and ended up giving his heart, soul, and money to Kerry.

You don’t seem to want the winner of the popular vote, the winner of more states, and the winner of more pledged delegates to be the nominee because you think Clinton is entitled to the nomination.

You want your chosen one, who supported Bush’s adventure in Iraq, to be given the nomination because you think she deserves it simply because she is a woman.

You want to destroy the Democratic party?

Nominating Clinton will sink the party for decades and will elect McCain and the Supreme Court Justices he will appoint.

You want a Democratic civil war? You got it.

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