From the Inbox: I’m a Little Confused

Heh!

I’m a little  confused. Let me see if I have this straight…..

  • If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you’re “exotic, different.”
  • *Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers, a quintessential American story.
  • If your name is Barack you’re a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.
  • Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you’re a maverick.
  • Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.
  • Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you’re well grounded.
  • If you spend 3 years as a   brilliant community organizer, become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 yearsas a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate’s Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people while        sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs,  Environment and Public Works and Veteran’s Affairs committees, you don’t have any real leadership experience.
  • If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000        people, then you’re qualified to become the country’s second highest ranking executive.
  • If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you’re not a real Christian.
  • If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you’re a Christian.
  • If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.
  • If, while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other option in sex education in your state’s school system while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant , you’re very        responsible.
  • If your wife is a Harvard graduate laywer who gave up a position ina prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family’s valuesdon’t represent America’s.
  • If you’re husband is nicknamed “First Dude”, with at least one DWI conviction and no college education, who didn’t register to vote untilage 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession of Alaska from the USA, your family is extremely admirable.

OK, much clearer  now.

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11 responses to “From the Inbox: I’m a Little Confused

  1. would you expect anything less than this to be “The Reality” in which we live?

    Hell I heard on the radio here in Colorado, an ad endorsed specifically by McCain, no 527 ad, that the Chinese are slant drilling 60 miles off the coast of Florida. This of course denies the truth verified by Republican Congressman from Florida, Mel Martinez.

    Nothing like typical Republican & Evangelical hypocracy! <–why is that not a word, grrrr!

  2. It’s like we live in an alternate universe at times!

  3. First of all, I am no fan of John McCain. The undesirable characteristics he has had in the past, and hidden for the campaign, are more than likely to resurface if he grabs the seat of president. But mostly, I do feel that Obama is fit to become this nation’s president.

    While I would love to actually discuss the actual policies and approaches of each candidate, the recent nature of national dialog and this correspondence devolves into battering all involved on their personal aspects. So here we go…

    I’m a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight…..
    If you grow up in Hawaii, are raised by your grandparents, you’re
    “exotic” and “different.” If you grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers,
    you are the quintessential American story.

    It’s not the Hawaii portion of Barack’s life that makes him different or exotic. What does bring a bit of hesitation for a portion of the voting public is the time Barack spent in Indonesia obtaining his education from a Madrasa either as a Muslim or masquerading as a Muslim.
    The Madrasa’s aren’t exactly teaching the tenets of American history and society.

    If your name is Barack you’re a radical, unpatriotic Muslim. If you name
    your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you’re a maverick.

    This is really not getting the point. It’s not the name that gives one a need for caution. I doubt that if Barack was a boy raised in Birmingham to evangelical parents you could say the same thing. The name lends itself to a background that brings certain consternation, yet the name itself isn’t the whole story.

    And yes, Willow, Trig and Track are odd names, but also in the same vein the names given to the children do not lend a characteristic of being a Maverick.

    If you graduate from Harvard law School, you are unstable.•If you attend
    five different small colleges before graduating, you’re well grounded.

    Again, we’re mating characteristics to perceptions that are founded totally outside the lack luster story these statements tell.

    If you spend three years as a community organizer, become the first
    black editor of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration
    drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend twelve years as a
    constitutional law professor, spend eight years as a state senator
    representing a district with more than 750,000 people, become chairman
    of your state senate’s Health and Human Services Committee, spend four
    years in the United States Senate representing a state of thirteen
    million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign
    Affairs, Environment, Public Works and Veterans Affairs committees, you
    don’t have any real leadership experience.

    And this comes from a real analysis of what leadership is. What you have here is a fantastic activist and motivator, similar to Hillary, but there us no leader here.

    Don’t let me belittle the accomplishment as the first black editor of the Harvard Law Review. This is a truly an accomplishment and progress forward. Yet I doubt we would all stand together to elect an editor of a paper merely on that accomplishment. While there is definitely management experience involved, anyone who actually has studied management, you can be a manager without being a leader.

    Now while the number is of worthy note, a voter registration drive which only played into the normal Chicago politics of weighting the voting population towards someone Barack and his contemporaries supported isn’t leadership. Barack was merely attending to political aspirations of another group. No leadership here. Tell me he went into any and all neighborhoods without the concern for salary, race, age or party affiliation and obtained such a number for voters and I would only still call him an activist.

    And Obama’s State Senate stint, nothing speaks more of leadership than voting present 130 times.

    And Obama has sponsored 121 bills. 116 have never made it out of committee. Only two were successfully enacted. Leadership.

    If your total resume consists of local weatherman, four years on the
    city council and six years as the mayor of a town with fewer than 7,000
    people, twenty months as the governor of a state with only 650,000
    people, then you’re qualified to become the country’s second highest
    ranking executive.

    Now to the leadership definition again. Usually one would attribute the fact of being in front and leading a group of people as leadership. Palin took on her own party establishment to topple a corrupt set of politicians.

    I’m pretty sure that there was little help from those around her. And I am sure this wasn’t like a voter registration drive where people were doing this all the time and she just decided to seat herself this time.

    Palin took it upon herself, for the reasons of doing the right thing, and forged ahead to clean up her environment. This was a bold move that seems even a Harvard graduate could figure out why and how to do. If Barack wants to compare, Chicago is leagues away from any part of Alaska for corruption, yet Barack is the leader here.

    If you have been married to the same woman for nineteen years while
    raising two daughters, all within protestant churches, you’re not a real
    Christian.

    Again, whoever wrote this must be the most overpaid Obama staff member. Another error in logic. The “not a real Christian” hypothesis does not come from his fidelity to his family. What it may come from is his allegiance to Black Theology teachings that seemed to be too burdensome as of late, but fine for about 20 years prior.

    I think we can go to many pillars of Christianity of forgiving and always working to better yourself and others around you. Not wallow in self pity and be angry at the world around you.

    If you cheated on your first wife (with a rich heiress) and subsequently
    left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the following month,
    you’re a Christian.

    Well, Like I said, I don’t like McCain. This is definitely one of the darker parts of McCain’s character and I think he received his punishment well before his misdeed.

    If you teach responsible, age-appropriate sex education, including the
    proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.

    When you usurp the parents right to teach their own children as they wish to teach them, then, yes, you are eroding the fiber of society by replacing it with the nanny nation.

    If, while governor, you staunchly advocate “abstinence only,” and
    dismiss the instruction of all other sex education options in your
    state’s school system, and then your unwed, teenage daughter becomes
    pregnant, you’re very responsible.

    Here’s another place where a long sentence brings forth an error in logic by discussing several events and summarizing a characteristic that does not really speak to all elements. But if you’re an Obama supporter, you’re eating this up without using your grey matter.

    A responsible parent does put forth their beliefs on sex, drinking and driving, proper treatment of others. I want you to say to a mother that lost their child due to drunk driving that they were not a responsible parent. I want you to say to Barack’s father that he was not a responsible parent for abandoning him. I want you to say to Sarah that she is and was a responsible parent, but there are two people involved in this equation and the solution was not the expected one.

    Here, though, Sarah was wrong. She should have kept her position on sex education to herself and her family and let others to theirs. Maybe we actually need to have sex-education for the parents and tell them to teach their children what part they wish them to know.

    If your wife is a Harvard-graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a
    prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city
    community, who then gave that up to raise a family, your family’s values
    don’t represent America’s.

    Okay, really? Michelle got that cushy job after leaving her former position because Barack scratched someone else’s back. Come on. She is no saint in this vector. She got a fairly larger paycheck than her predecessor.

    If you’re husband is nicknamed “First Dude,” possesses at least one DWI
    conviction and no college education, didn’t register to vote until age
    25 and was once a member of a group advocating the secession of Alaska
    from the USA, your family is extremely admirable.

    And we’re still going to throw stones in glass houses. Barack never did anything bad like getting a DWI. No he just didn’t get caught doing his drugs. And the no college thing. Are you liberals hearing the elitist tag being thrown? Are you going to pick on Palin’s husband because he himself didn’t go to college. How many first ladies never attended college?

    And he didn’t register to vote until 25. Not a fan of that. I voted when I was eligible and have since. But he won’t be making policy, so I can deal with that. So the same goes with the secession thing.

    OK, much clearer now.

    Yeah, so much clearer

  4. Yeah, what you clearly did, was clearly diminish Barack & Michele’s accomplishments ever so slightly but forcibly at the same time, while excusing everything reprehensible McCain or Palin did.

    Radford quoted this “If you cheated on your first wife (with a rich heiress) and subsequently
    left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the following month,
    you’re a Christian.”

    You responded,
    “Well, Like I said, I don’t like McCain. This is definitely one of the darker parts of McCain’s character and I think he received his punishment well before his misdeed. “

    So what you are saying here, is that it was OK for McCain to cheat on Carol and marry Cindy because he received ample punishment before the action that was reprehensible?

    I’m sorry, but to paraphrase you, “logic does not make sense” and to quote you directly, “Not wallow in self pity and be angry at the world around you.

    First off, when is it ever OK for someone to wronged in the past and then in the future they are exonerated from committing a reprehensible action? You are saying in essence, a man is wrongly convicted of robbery and spends five years in jail before he is exonerated, then because of that wrong against him, he could go out and do something reprehensible, say like kill or rape someone, because he already paid for the “sin” beforehand, even though the two were not related? Are you serious?

    And, come now, I am not a religious textual scholars, but I have read Job once in college and discussed it, and I do not recall Job going out and finding a hotter, richer wife after his first wife was tragically injured and disfigured after waiting for Job as he suffered through years of agony. Maybe I need to go back and read it again, just to make sure my memory is correct.

    Also, when you talk about Obama’s 100+ “present votes” I don’t see you countering it with McCain’s 64% absenteeism from voting in the Senate, which is what we pay him to do. Would your boss pay you and allow you to keep your job if you only showed up 36% of the time? I think not!

    Please, Palin is a leader while Obama is not?! Actually you may be right on the technicality of what a “leader” actually is, but it has no bearing on what quality that “leader” possesses.

    Palin took her town’s budget surplus when she became mayor and turned it into a budget deficit by the time she left. What did she give her town in return, better roads, better schools, better infrastructure? No! She gave them debt and a sports facility. There is no bigger example of government subsidy than sports arenas, where all taxpayers of a region whether they gain anything or not from the sports team are forced to pay for a facility that many benefits a very few handsomely.

    What else does it do? Just watch “Gladiator” and listen to what they say about him bringing “The Games” to Roman. Paraphrased, ” it makes the leader look very popular, as the people crave the vile and reprehensible, all the while the leader can hide the corruption and shit that they are pulling behind the captivated audience of “The Games”.

    OK, much clearer now.

    Yeah, so much clearer what you were trying to say!

  5. oh, sorry on the typos. See what my “elitist” college education has done for me! 🙂

    and speaking of education, Barack attending “madrasahs” is something bad? No offense Sherlock, but “madrasah” is basically the word for school in Arabic.

    Wikipedia says,

    Madrasah (Arabic: مدرسة, madrasa pl. madāris مدارس) is the Arabic word for any type of school, college or university, whether secular or religious (of any religion). It is variously transliterated as madrasah, madarasaa, medresa, madrassa, madraza, madarsa, etc.

    So what, given McCain was born in Panama, and well the language there is Spanish, so do you have an issue with McCain going to an “Escuela”?

    What a stupid, sad argument to express one’s “intelligence”. Just like the first one debunked above.

    Therefore

  6. Hans, thanks for doing the heavy lifting for me on that one.

    Well done.

  7. “Yeah, what you clearly did, was clearly diminish Barack & Michele’s accomplishments ever so slightly but forcibly at the same time, while excusing everything reprehensible McCain or Palin did.”

    What I did was bring the original text down to earth outside of the ether of bullshit it was floating in.

    And while I would have loved to do another two pages on McCain’s disgusting choice for leaving his first wife, I think the hyperbole surrounding Obama needed the real attention. I never excused it.

    What you may have to account for is the response you see from a married couple when distanced by a few tours of duty in the military. The time spent in service and as a POW by McCain may have added a certain colour to the relationship he and his first wife had that we will never understand. I don’t like it, but his first wife isn’t exactly angry about it. So let’s move on.

    And by the way, do you really believe the Job story word for word, or the bible in a literal sense? I don’t think so. I more expected you to quote from Mein Kampf. Nice switch up there.

    If you add Obama’s present votes to his 37.9% of missed votes and the race here isn’t a blistering lead.

    “Actually you may be right on the technicality of what a “leader” actually is, but it has no bearing on what quality that “leader” possesses.”

    Again here is the anointed one getting a pass. Let’s not look at what he does, let’s look at what he could do. Whatever.

  8. As far as the Madrasah comment…

    McCain was reared on a U.S. Military base. A little piece of Americana in the middle of a foreign nation. The education system present as well as the other portions of the culture on the base, most definitely during McCain’s residence, where facsimile of the underpinnings of mainland America.

    While there was little choice for Barack, his foundations don’t breathe the same air as the American culture. You know damn well there is little positive material put forth in those schools when it comes to America and Judeo-Christian values. The bum wouldn’t wear a pin or show the other affectations of American pride until it really became politically expedient after the primary phase.

    Besides, I think McCain’s eligibility for president is as questionable as Barack’s but the media on both sides doesn’t want to seem to go there.

  9. You are spot on, I don’t believe a single word of the Bible as it is a piece of fiction with portions of non fiction intertwined.

    Also I don’t need religion to tell me what is right or wrong, nor give me values on how to treat other people. Irony being, those with heavy dependence upon religion (juedo-christian) for their “values” tend to be the most racist and anti-other religion individuals in the world. What happened to “treat your brother as you would want to be treated yourself”? I don’t need a fucking stupid book (bible) and a fucking stupid mythical religion to tell me that is how I want to be treated, it is simple common sense to know that if you treat another the way you want to be treated, most likely it is returned in kind to you.

    knock off the “foundations” BS as that word has been destroyed by McCain. FFS how many times did he use it in one sentence last night, whereby he used it to define itself and then used it to define that definition. All the while, he was redefining what fundamentals really means.

    All the while “The bum wouldn’t wear a pin”! That is right, McCain had no pin on last night and to add insult to injury, he showed more reverence to North Korea than he did to the USA with his comment, “The Dear Leader” when referring to Kim Jung Il. I don’t give a shit what a dictator forces his people to be refer to him as, but when a presidential candidate uses a “a term of endearment” to refer to another world leader all the while trying to say how bad that country/leader is, that show a serious fundamental disconnect between reality and the delusions of an aging man.

    “Min kamp” never read it, and sorry to tell you that you trying to peg me for going to a “liberal” college is the farthest from the truth. I went to an engineering university which is the closest you can get to true fiscal conservative thinking given everything is based on facts, formulas and verifiable assumptions.

    But that was a nice try, trying to peg me as some commie socialist who believes in jewish annihilation. Funny you use Judeo-Christian values as the standard by which all “Right” is measured, hence all other nations are basically shit that do not follow the same religious beliefs. So you deny the existence of the KKK, or are they OK b/c they are founded on Judeo-Christian values?

    And tell me this, have you ever been out of the country, let alone in a Muslim country to KNOW what is taught in schools overseas as you are so insistent you know?! I doubt it, and what I further doubt is that you have ever been outside the “Yankeelandia” (Raford knows that term) in any country you have traveled to, so all you know of another country is that small region where most US tourists go, act like they are America and expect those people to speak English b/c most Americans are too lazy to get off their asses and learn a foreign language or the culture of the country they are visiting.

    You know damn well there is little positive material put forth in those schools when it comes to America and Judeo-Christian values.

    Time after time, we have gone into a country and told the people of those countries to respect the American Values at the end of the gun. When it comes to trying to extend the values of American values through peaceful means, which btw come much cheaper & with greater returns, than does a bomb, have we ever done it?

    Afghanistan is case in point. We abandoned them after they did the heavy hitting for kicking the Soviets out, and also helping in causing the economic collapse of the USSR. As soon as there was no need to send them military aid, all funding was cut off and in came the Taliban which ultimately led to the attacks of 9/11.

    So instead of learning the results of our poor choices in the past, we repeat them again and now poppy export is at an all time high from Afghanistan. The Judeo-Christian Nation spending money to educate the children of the world, to help foster good relations to future generations will never happen as long as Judeo Christian Nation can use bombs to kill those that do not believe the same things.

    uggg, working so much lately, I don’t have time for “recreational” blogging anymore, hence the excessive rebuttal 😉

  10. oops, Argentina is rubbing off on me. I knew “Yankeelandia” did not sound quite right, I meant “Gringolandia”.

    Raford, make sure you “Spanish” is the right “Spanish” when you go to Arg.

    Yankee as you probably know is “shan-key”

    I wonder if the most used product in BS.AS. is a nose hair trimmer, so at least when all the Portenos are walking around with their noses in the air, everyone doesn’t have to be bothered by poor nasal hair hygiene! ROFL!

  11. Figured I would check in on you two world political geniuses and see what your take is on the all knowing Barack Hussein Obama is these days. He is definitely healing our wounds in Afghanistan that Hans has so prudently pointed out.

    You guys are so bright and right, I fail to ever reach the heights of your immeasurable intellect.

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